{"id":244,"date":"2012-02-13T09:20:26","date_gmt":"2012-02-13T08:20:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gereonskeukenthuis.nl\/blog\/?p=244"},"modified":"2018-02-23T09:41:32","modified_gmt":"2018-02-23T08:41:32","slug":"geprekken-en-gerechten-jeff-minnich-smoked-cod","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gereonskeukenthuis.nl\/blog\/geprekken-en-gerechten-jeff-minnich-smoked-cod\/","title":{"rendered":"Gesprekken en gerechten, Smoked cod for Jeff Minnich"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is the first in my new series of interviews and recipes. I start my sequel with Jeff Minnich from Arlington, USA. I happened to meet him through the blog of American writer Frances Mayes. We are both ardent readers of her books and blog. I\u00a0invited him to join my series of &#8220;<strong><em>gesprekken en gerechten<\/em><\/strong>&#8221; Jeff is a garden designer and a poetical blogwriter. He has many talents.\u00a0But, who am I to tell his story?\u00a0 Thus, I sent him\u00a0through mail some questions, which he gladly answered. Ofcourse\u00a0my part of the deal is creating a recipe.\u00a0As Jeff is living in the\u00a0Mid Atlantic,\u00a0I suggest a smoked cod, Dutch stirfried vegetables and a sauce hollandaise. The fun of this recipe is that it can be\u00a0made at home or as in Jeffs case\u00a0&#8220;al fresco&#8221;. My wine suggestion is a crisp white\u00a0chardonnay wine from Burgundy, M\u00e2con region.<\/p>\n<p class=\"separator\" data-blogger-escaped-style=\"clear: both; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-RKmiuzReE1U\/Wo_St6Y7ocI\/AAAAAAAAFvA\/9_XdxBzu3YAzB-gN0NL8HLYYbqvxnHVwACLcBGAs\/s1600\/10400188_1109213254721_6334820_n.jpg?ssl=1\" data-blogger-escaped-style=\"margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-RKmiuzReE1U\/Wo_St6Y7ocI\/AAAAAAAAFvA\/9_XdxBzu3YAzB-gN0NL8HLYYbqvxnHVwACLcBGAs\/s320\/10400188_1109213254721_6334820_n.jpg?resize=212%2C320&#038;ssl=1\" width=\"212\" height=\"320\" border=\"0\" data-blogger-escaped-data-original-height=\"604\" data-blogger-escaped-data-original-width=\"401\" \/><\/a>\u00a0foto: Jeff Minnich<\/p>\n<div>\n<div id=\"post-body-3509372421182090414\">\n<div><b>Who is Jeff Minnich? Tell me some more.<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I am landscape designer, horticulturist, gardener, reader, writer, cook, veterans advocate, partnered. I dabble in interior design; I don\u2019t have any formal interior design training, but I love experimenting and learning. One thing I\u2019ve come to know is that design is design\u2014in other words, the principles are the same, no matter what kind of art you do.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I have a Bachelor of Science degree in Horticulture from Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, VA, here in the U.S. I specialized in landscape design and nursery management. I have minors in English and business, also. I use every bit of what I\u2019ve learned, and I\u2019m still learning, every day. I have my own landscape design\/build business in Arlington, VA, which is in the Washington, DC, metropolitan area. Most of my work is in the immediate Washington area, though I do some work outside the area from time to time.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>My partner, Steve, is a fireman in Wilmington, North Carolina, which is on the Atlantic coast in the far, southeast corner of North Carolina, almost to the South Carolina border. It\u2019s very mild there. Palm trees and Live Oaks, draped in Spanish moss, grow all over there. The Live Oak is a beautiful, evergreen Oak that grows twice as wide as tall\u2014very majestic. Spanish moss is an epiphyte\u2014it lives on its own, yet uses the oak (and other trees) for support. It is gray and hangs off the trees in long strands&#8211;very mysterious and beautiful. The warmer climate allows me to grow lots of subtropical plants I can\u2019t grow in Arlington which is fun for both of us. One of the many things Steve and I have in common is our love of gardening, which we do together, often. We have a special place in our hearts for military veterans, also, and especially for those who were injured in combat physically and\/or mentally. We try to help where we can.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>In Arlington, I live in a little cottage (which is called Woodland Cottage) built on a hillside, surrounded by old trees. It\u2019s magical. My garden is a place for good, hard, physical work, beauty, relaxation and spiritual uplifting. I love to share it with all who want to visit.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I write a fair amount\u2014mostly newspaper and magazine articles. I have a blog, also, and I try to write in it once a week or so. It\u2019s been fun and I\u2019ve met many new friends. As I get older, and the physical work becomes more difficult (it isn\u2019t so much yet), I\u2019d like to do more and more writing and less of the landscape design\/installation work. This Winter and throughout the coming year, for instance, I\u2019ve agreed to write several articles for a newspaper and magazine here in Wilmington. It\u2019s good Winter work and keeps my mind nice and sharp.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Steve and I love Savannah, Georgia, and travel there several times a year. The climate is wonderful. We\u2019ve thought we might want to retire down that way sometime in the not-too-distant future, buy a bit of land and start a little Palm nursery, grow our own vegetables, get back to the land. I think we\u2019d be very content with that set-up.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>When did your attraction to gardening start?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I\u2019ve wanted to garden for as long as I can remember. I grew up in Alexandria, Virginia (right outside Washington, DC, also). We had an elderly neighbor who was an old family friend\u2014in fact, our families go back together many years. They are really like family. Anyway, this neighbor, Marguerite, was a wonderful gardener and decided to help me plant my first, little garden on the back of our property. I grew vegetables, mainly, and a few flowers. Gradually, I took over the maintenance of the entire yard at our house (about \u00be of an acre), though I did share the grass cutting with my younger brother. Additionally, my maternal grandparents and my paternal grandfather were great gardeners, and I worked and learned from them, as well. They were \u201cold school\u201d gardeners and gardened by wisdom passed down through the generations\u2014using few chemicals, planting\/harvesting by the moon, keen observance of the seasons. Actually, all of this \u201cold school\u201d gardening is coming back into fashion now, as we all look for ways to preserve our environment.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I\u2019ve had many other wonderful teachers throughout my life and I\u2019ve learned much from them.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>Currently you are a garden designer and owner of a garden design company. When did you start these activities?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I started my company, Jeff Minnich Garden Design, Inc., in 1997. Here\u2019s a link to the website:<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.minnichgardendesign.com\/\">www.minnichgardendesign.com<\/a><\/span>\u00a0It\u2019s been an incredible amount of work, yet extremely rewarding. I absolutely love making order out of chaos, and that\u2019s my job. I try to get inside my clients\u2019 heads and figure out the best type of garden for each of them. It\u2019s so interesting to see how many people evolve through the process. At the beginning, they say what they\u00a0<i>think<\/i>\u00a0they want in a garden\u2026many times, after careful consideration, they find out what they\u00a0<i>actually<\/i>\u00a0want is much different. Fascinating, this metamorphosis. Many become wonderful gardeners, when previously they were not gardeners, and I think they are more surprised that I am.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Prior to 1997, I worked for 15 years as a landscape designer at a large landscape company\/nursery\/garden center in Northern Virginia. I\u2019ve worked in florists, greenhouses (both retail and wholesale), nurseries\u2026come to think of it, I\u2019ve worked my tail off most of my working life! And loved almost every minute of it. Working with plants is the only work I\u2019ve ever had, and I\u2019ve been doing it since I was 5 years old, and professionally for over 30 years now.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>What is your favorite type of garden?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>My favorite type of garden is an eclectic one&#8211;evergreen (mostly broadleaf), textured, layered, very green, very dense; simple from a distance and more complex close-up. I love a garden that is private. A garden that appeals to all the senses. I would say a woodland, shady garden is my favorite\u2014they are much more subtle, softer, with an emphasis on the textures and colors of the foliage versus the flowers.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>Which plant do you like the most and which one do you dislike?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I love Palms, specifically the hardier species. When I look at them, I feel warm, even if the air is cold (as you may have discerned, I am not a lover of cold weather!!).<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I really do love all plants, so it is hard for me to pick one I dislike. I would have to say I am not a big fan of Barberries (<i>Berberis<\/i>\u00a0is the genus), specifically the deciduous types. While they have many wonderful attributes, particularly for Northern climates, I find them difficult to work around because of the monstrous amount of thorns.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>You\u2019ve travelled a lot to see gardens in the U.S. and worldwide\u2014tell me about your favorite garden.<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I find it hard to choose one, but since I must, I\u2019d say Dumbarton Oaks in Washington, DC. It was designed by Beatrix Farrand, a niece of the writer Edith Wharton, and the first woman in the world to become a landscape architect. Dumbarton\u2019s garden is a series of very different garden rooms and each provokes a different mood. I particularly love to sit on a beautiful bench in a very, very simple garden \u201croom\u201d surrounded by clipped Yews. It\u2019s quiet and peaceful.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I\u2019ve admired many, many other gardens around the world, but these stand out without thinking about it too much: the Oak allee at Oak Alley in Louisiana; a magnificent, Bougainvillea-covered, modern arbor in a park along the river in Brisbane, Australia (it seemed to go on forever); the botanical garden in the same city which had a tree called a Sausage Tree\u2014maybe the most bizarre plant I\u2019ve ever seen; and Hayman Island in the Great Barrier Reef in Australia was incredibly beautiful, too. Come to think of it, at the Sydney, Australia, botanical garden, the\u00a0<i>Ficus<\/i>\u00a0trees were huge, but the amazing part was the flying foxes which roosted in the trees and ate the fruit at night. Those bats are giant!! And Muir Woods in California\u2014those giant Redwoods\u2014awe-inspiring.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I\u2019ve loved so many gardens around the world, for so many different reasons.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>Are there differences between American and other gardens?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>Oh, absolutely. Our diverse climates make for the necessity of very different gardens across the U.S., based on the local climate. I will say that within these climates we\u2019ve adopted the gardens from other countries that match that particular climate. For instance, California has a very Mediterranean climate, so the gardens there have many attributes that resemble Italy, Spain, and Mexico. The English settled in Virginia early on, so many of the Virginia gardens have a truly English feel to them, not to mention English boxwoods so suit the Virginia climate. They look right there. Further South, in South Florida, tropical plants from around the world have been brought in to create a beautiful, lush feel. It suits the climate.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>And because America is such a melting pot of people from other countries and cultures, those influences have affected how our gardens have evolved, as well.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I would say the most uniquely \u201cAmerican\u201d gardens might be those of the grasslands of the Midwest and Plains, and the deserts of the Southwest. In my own travels, I haven\u2019t seen those represented as much outside the U.S.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>What garden would you never design?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I would have to say a desert garden because I don\u2019t know the plant material as well. I come from a lush place of humidity and rain. That\u2019s what I know. As I mentioned earlier, design principles are design principles\u2014the same around the world\u2014but then, to make a healthy garden, you\u2019ve got to know the best plants for a particular environment.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>And for whom would you like to design a garden and why?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I love to design gardens for people who open their minds to the possibilities. Those gardens always turn out the best because they evolve with the collaboration. Oh, it\u2019s fun, and we become wonderful friends during the process, too, nine times out of ten.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>So many people come to the table with an absolute idea of what [they think] they want in their garden, and often, in my opinion, the kind of garden they think they want is not the garden for them, at all. Yet, stubbornly, they persist. If they would just open their minds to the possibilities, let go, and let the garden evolve as it will, they would have a garden much more tailored to their lifestyle and who they really are\u2014not who they think they would like to be. I know that sounds harsh, yet in so many cases it is so true.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I once read an article about the movie star, Brad Pitt\u2019s, garden. He collaborated with a very headstrong designer and Mr. Pitt is very headstrong, too, according to the article. There was a lot of head-banging and arguing, I understand! And yet, the garden they created together, their collaboration, is just astoundingly creative, beautiful and lush. I would love to visit there sometime, if Mr. Pitt still owns it, because I know he keeps it maintained as he likes it. What a talented garden designer he has\u2026the guy is to-the-moon creative, in my opinion.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>On food, do you think food and gardens can be complimentary?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>Oh, absolutely. It\u2019s the big trend now here in the U.S. Unfortunately, where I garden and do most of my design work, there is too much shade to include vegetables, fruit and herbs. But we do try where we can. In Wilmington, we have sandy soil and lots of sunshine, plus a long, long growing season. You can grow many seasons of different crops here. We put the Tomatoes in with the Zinnias, the Marigolds with the shrubs\u2026we mix it all up. It really pulls in the bees, and the crop yields are really good (given a year of good climate). The birds come in\u2026oh, it\u2019s glorious. Birds and bees bouncing, flying and playing; singing and buzzing\u2026the scents, the sounds\u2026it\u2019s so entertaining. And there is NOTHING like a fresh Tomato\u2014the store-bought Tomatoes here in the U.S. are dreadful.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>What wine do you like?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I have a limited wine palate\u2014sorry, I do! I wish I knew more about wines! But I do know that I love the Cabernets, Merlots and Shiraz for the cold months; and chilled Chardonnays, sweeter whites, roses for the warmer months. I do not like dry, bitter wines\u2014I always go for the sweeter. Champagne is lovely, but it gives me a terrific headache, so I don\u2019t indulge often, unfortunately. As far as specific wines\u2026I leave the brand names to the experts. I am probably kind of trashy when it comes to wine selection, but I do know what I like when I taste it!!<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>What else do you want to tell?<\/b><\/div>\n<div>I\u2019m very private, very simple. I decorate my own house and garden to satisfy me, not anyone else. To me, our houses and gardens in Arlington and Wilmington are beautiful, each very different, yes\u2014but we\u2019ve done them for our pleasure, not to show off or keep up with others. That turns me off. That said, others can do whatever they want with what they have. Who am I to judge? Have at it\u2014whatever makes you happy.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I like nice things, yet I am not materialistic. I love to travel, yet I don\u2019t have to stay in the Taj Mahal, either. I love simple dinners with close friends, our gardens, hanging out with my partner and family in our cherished spare time.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I love people. That\u2019s a big part of my work, getting to know people so I can help them with their yards. The resulting friendships are a nice bonus. I know lots and lots of people, it\u2019s true, yet I have very few \u201cbest\u201d friends\u2014those with whom I spend a lot of time. I can count those special people on one hand. And my family, of course. I do love my family and Steve\u2019s family, our family. As much as I love people, I need my time alone\u2014to read, write, cook, garden, sit and meditate, recharge. My work is very demanding, so I need this time to recharge so I don\u2019t burn out.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-P90tnXyKNOY\/TzjywWJraUI\/AAAAAAAAAH4\/PUaSdFiMIaw\/s1600\/020.JPG\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-P90tnXyKNOY\/TzjywWJraUI\/AAAAAAAAAH4\/PUaSdFiMIaw\/s320\/020.JPG?resize=237%2C320\" alt=\"\" width=\"237\" height=\"320\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<em>foto: bronze eelsmoker in Monnickendam harbour<\/em><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><strong><em>The recipe:<\/em><\/strong><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Ingredients 4 persons:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>for the smoked cod:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1 \u00bd lb of fresh cod or pollock<\/div>\n<div>2 tbs olive oil<\/div>\n<div>salt and peper<\/div>\n<div>lemon juice<\/div>\n<div>4\u00a0tbs smoking ground<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>for the vegetables:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>1 big carrot in dices<\/div>\n<div>\u00bd lb of Brussels sprouts, halved<\/div>\n<div>1 leek in slices<\/div>\n<div>1 turnip in dices<\/div>\n<div>olive oil<\/div>\n<div>peper, salt and ground nutmeg<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>for the sauce hollandaise:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>3 egg yolks<\/div>\n<div>2 tbs water<\/div>\n<div>6 oz unsalted butter, cut into tiny cubes, not too cold<\/div>\n<div>2\u00a0tbs white wine vinegar<\/div>\n<div>salt and ground white pepper<\/div>\n<div>chopped parsley<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><em>the smoked cod:<\/em><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>You can either\u00a0use an outside smoker, or a steam pan from a well known\u00a0Swedish furniture supplier. You fill the device with special smoking woodpieces, like small pieces of oak, birch\u00a0etc.\u00a0or smoking ground.\u00a0If not, an alternative way, is to use and old pan, with a thin bottom. You cover the whole inside of the pan with some aluminium foil, shiny side up. On top of the foil you put\u00a04 tbs of special smoking ground.<\/div>\n<div>Meanwhile you cure the fresh cod in olive oil, salt, pepper and some lemon juice and leave it to rest for 20 minutes. After that, you cut the fish in\u00a0 medium thin slices.<\/div>\n<div>Cover the smoking ground with some alu foil, pierce it with a fork and put a plate on it. Put some pebbles\u00a0under the plate to help smoke\/air circulation.\u00a0Put a small grill on top of the plate.<\/div>\n<div>Put the pan on a high fire and when the ground starts smoking, put the cod on the grill. Cover up with foil and a lid an let the fish smoke for about 10 minutes.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><em>the vegetables<\/em>:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Rinse and peel the vegetables. Put some oil in a stir frying pan and fry them until \u201cal dente\u201d Let them simmer for a while and add some ground nutmeg. Keep warm until the fish is done.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><em>the sauce<\/em>:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Melt the butter in a pan, that is in another pan with boiling water.\u00a0See that the bottom is not in direct contact with the boiling\u00a0water. (au bain marie method) In a small bowl, whisk\u00a0the egg yolks with some vinegar and a dash of lemon juice, salt, and pepper. Bit by bit beat in the melted butter, then add\u00a0some water water. Return this into pan and beat over very low heat until mixture is slightly thickened. Leave to rest. 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